View Full Version : What is the strongest ranger class?
Requiem
10-25-2007, 01:32 PM
I am now going to play Lineage after a long time. The last version I played was C3, so there are a whole bunch of changes right now. I am totally confused by the whole new stuffs. So... have a question to ask you guys~~~
I am totally keen on Ranger class. Well, now there are two choices, Human or Elf. What are the pros and cons of each? And, considering a Sagittarius and a Moonlight sentinel is on a PvP battle, both of them have the same gear and the two players' control skills are identical. Then, who will win, in your opinion?
And if I play Moonlight Sentinel <gosh! this name is sooooo cool>, then what do you guys think will be the best sub-class for my character? All of your suggestions are really appreciated.
Well I know it is such a stupid question because it takes a long time to get to level 80, but... well, just wanna know.
Thanks fellas!
Thorgrimm
10-26-2007, 05:54 PM
there are actually3 classes of archer: moonlight sentinel (elf, referred to as "sr"), saggitarius (human, referred to as "he") and ghost sentinel (dark elf, referred to as "pr"). as for the relative strengs and weaknesses, i posted my pic on here(http://www.lineagechat.com/showthread.php?t=261). but basically, PR has attack power and low attack speed, SR has attack speed and low attack power, HE has either speed nor power in as great quantities as the elves, but posesses much more range and cp/hp.
crucifixion
12-14-2007, 06:56 PM
actually the only way for saggitarius to have greater range than the other classes is by using the skill snipe.after the third class transfer and 78 lv all of the 3 classes of rangers aquire the skill archery lvl1 which greatly increases physical power and sligtly invreases range.the range of most of the rest of rangers skills remanes the same thats 900,but the range of single arrows increases up to 1050 .that gives an advantage to sentinels against others chars such as mages of which the range of their most powerful dmging skills remanes 900.thats kite!!!!:PPPP
xiaoxing93
12-15-2007, 02:23 PM
The HE has more attack speed and p.attack than your SR in the screenshot O.o
crucifixion
12-15-2007, 03:29 PM
that depends also on the dyes which are used.human sentinels have passive skill which increases attck speed,so even if sr have much greater dexterity than humans in basic(dexterity influence speed attck speed,critical rate,evasion mainly),the attck speed of humans is about the same cause of the passive skill.aslo humans have greater con str which influence hp and stun rate succes and physical attack respectivly.they also have passive skill critical chance lvl1 and power lvl2 sr has only critical chance lvl1 and ghosth sentinels critical power lvl2.it whould be more balanced if it was crit rate lvl2 for sr and critpower lvl3 for ghost sentinels in my opinion.actually the only thing that humans lack is speed(but they have dash lvl1 which allong with spirit of saggitarius especially in pvp servers are able to use it very ofthen with a short time of reuse delay
Anjie
12-15-2007, 05:10 PM
Well, if you are talking official, eveyone knows that hawkeye is one of the most overpowered classes, alongside tyrant and necromancer. Increase attack speed, crit rate, crit chance and weight limit passives+higher cp/hp than any other archer....whats the point in playing a non-hawkeye on official? (unless you're not a munchkin, that is)
xiaoxing93
12-15-2007, 07:13 PM
Im using a Majestic Light on my PR now. Is it okay? O.o
Anjie
12-15-2007, 08:56 PM
Mmm...good question...to choose MJ light or Drac light....+8% pattack or +4%pattack/+4% attack speed...dependent on initial stats to, i suppose, and then there's the basic modifications: +1DEX/-1CON as opposed to +1DEX, +1STR/-2CON...most people I've talked to seem to think that drac is better (at least fullbuffed), as the one thing an archer is lacking is attack speed. Although, last time I tried the 2 sets out, I came up with nearly the same pattack using drac, and, obviously, more attack speed (I think it's the +1 STR-there comes a point when that will outweigh the +4% pattack).
Takedo
12-17-2007, 10:22 AM
Im using a Majestic Light on my PR now. Is it okay? O.o
If your playing on retail, I think I would stick with the majestic until we know better how much the epics were nerfed, but if Ur playing on a priv serv... U know what...I would still stick with the majestic, atleast until U get yourself some epics :P
Wickea
12-21-2007, 11:01 AM
HE
Speed : Low
Atk.Speed : Low
Attack : Normal
CON(hp/cp) : High
PR Speed : Normal
Atk.Speed : Normal
Attack : High
CON(hp/cp) : Low
SR Speed : High
Atk.Speed : Hight
Attack : Low
CON(hp/cp) : Normal
all stats(low,normal,high) are taken in comparation just for these 3 classes. finally ... HE is the most balanced ... but without any buffs SR beats `em all cause of speed...PR also has good speed but to little CON that makes him an berserk... my answer is ......if you have an PP you can play with PR or SR...but if you like HE don`t even try to play with him without at least PP SWS BD...of course a shaman and a warlock is optional but a HE without buffs is a dead man NO DOUBTS... but if you have FULL buff HE wins SR (5:4)...not more... what about PR...it is almost perfect in a BIG(really big ) party...and also with good buffs... in this case PR is the best... great attack and high speed and in this case his CON doesn`t matter a lot...
hope you understood everything...if you have no buffs ... make a mage or a crafter ... if you have just PP i suggest TH or TANK(doesn`t matter...DA,TK,SK) in this case you will beat every ranger and game pleasure is guaranted...
Anjie
12-21-2007, 01:29 PM
Actually, a PR has lower attack speed than a HE. Why? Because HE not only has increase attack speed passives (which a PR dosn't have), which offset the DEX difference in their own right, but also because of Dead Eye which increases pattack and crit rate at the expense of attack speed. True, a HE is basically slow, but with dash, you can run as fast as a SR. And, finally, if soloing, consider the fact that a HE gets quiver of holding, Soul of Saggitarius AND Spirit of Saggitaris, as well as Pain of Saggitarius, meaning you can not only increase your maximum mp and reduce the amount consumed by skills, you can also replenish it at the expense of hp. HE/PR beats SR because of the range differences-Rapid Shot reduces max range.
On the other hand, a SR is good for soloing because of Elemental Heal and the fact that most mobs (at least if you chose your targets well) will not be able to hit you if you kite because of your consistent high run speed.
Playing with full buffs, the "best" archer type is PR, because they have the highest pattack, combined with the best crit damadge, and all archers are maxed crit rate with full buffs.
fevgatos
03-01-2008, 02:22 PM
u want to know about 1v1 situations,well that's not the point,pr is going to be owned because low con means a lot of stuns.just think what u like most, what is more cool for u etc...i prefer sr because with rapid fire,and because with self buffs he is going to own a he,he even has more p attack because of his aura ( +15% p attack wooaa!!)
Heaven69
05-21-2008, 05:16 AM
SO The Conclusions Of This Topic is, The Best Char for PVP : SR ?
Sory, Im Beginner, in my country this game is Still "Open Soon", So Im Planning TO Play Ranger Type, BEcause in other game such as RAN and RF I Already Play Knight type
Anjie
06-21-2008, 01:19 AM
The best archer on official is a Hawkeye, the best on a full-buffed private server is a Phantom Ranger. And I don't know about privates with no NPC buffer-try it out i guess (HE still probably wins tho).
acteea
06-26-2008, 03:01 PM
I don't know with official, but on private with no npc buffs HE is the best archer. On private with npc buffs i'm not so sure that PR is the best archer. I've played on private with no npc buffs and it was closed so now I am playing on private with npc buffs until I manage to find a good server. I hate it cause you can buy weapon and armor until S grade, EAS, EWS, A grade jewlery, all soulshots, autolearn, is 45x and donations are allowed. imagine a server where almost all players are top dressed and their weapons are blue or red for all that enchantement. i was shocked to discover +18 draconic bow at one guy. anyway, i was talking about best archer on private with npc buffs. yesterday, while i was lvling in DV at bloody queens dressed in doom set with peril +4 and +4DEX-4CON & +4WIT-4INT, with d grade jewelery but full buffed ofc XD, here comes a PR.... with enchanted dark blue bow. neither of us got stuned at the begining. except him at the end when i was kind of desperate cause my HP was 40% and tried again the stun shot. after that he was down real fast. i'm not playing for such a long time on this server, so i can't say for sure, but i've seen that at oly there is no PR hero. only HE are and one SR. my opinion is that is more a matter of players than server or class.
sory to say it but 1vs1 any archer vs another it all comes down to buffs equipment and player skill it's something like 25% buffs 65% equipment and 10% player skills and about the archers themselves HE is the most blanced + a ton of HP which in 1vs1 matters alot,PR at high lvl (fully buffed, best gear) can 1 shot a lot of classes in the game but in a 1vs1 his hp will go down fast and SR dont know why but i think are ok for know i mean highest atk speed out of all archers highest ms (unless HE is using dash) highest evasion but the CT2 will really nerf it (only if u are a rapid fire addict) these being said i would suggest u if u are a newbie go HE if u are pro go any of them :)
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