Hawkeye Vs Fighters Buffs

[Arabule]

I never found the perfect buffs for hawkeye and i dont think there is such a thing called perfect buffs for a character, the buffs you choose depends on what is your enemy class, if it mage or fighter.

The best buffs i could ever do for my hawkeye to prepear it against fighters pvp or specialy against hawkeye like me are these.

Songs: Song of Earth, Song of Life, Song of Water, Song of Wind, Song of Vitality, Song of Hunter, Song of Renewal, and Song of Champoin.

Dances: Dance of Warrior, Dance of Inspiration, Dance of Fire, & Dance of Fury.

Chants: Chant of Vampire, Chant Of Rage and Chant of Victory.

Other Buffs: Magic Barrier, Shield, Bless Shield, Bless Soul, Mental Shield, Might, Resist Shock, Elemental Protection, Death Whisper, Giudance, Death Wisper, Decrease Wiegh, Breserker Spirits, Haste, Clarity, Wind Walk, Bless of Queen, Gift of Queen, Bless of Seraphim, Gift of Seraphim and (Greater Might for better P.Atk or Greater Shield for better P.Def).

These Buffs will give you the Highest P.Atk, P.Def, Crit. Rate and Atk. Spd, Critical Damage Amount and Power and finally Fast Skills Recharging

This in no buff limit and Hawkeye Vs Fighters Case.

[Anjie]

Blessing/Gift of seraphim are useless on a Hawkeye, as they apply to magic skills, Chant of Fury=Haste, Chant of Eagle=Guidance, Chant of Predator=Focus (I believe-your "buffs" thread is a bit vague, and i cant get ingame atm >.>). Unimportant, but I prefer to use prophet buffs where possible, to avoid confusion (and overbuffing party members). Also, most of the time (I think it applies in official too), Chant of Battle and Greater Might don't stack. Song of Meditation and Siren's Dance are, once again, mage buffs.

Songs, I would add Vengance, Aqua Guard, Hunter, Warding, Flame Guard
Dances, I would add only Aqua and Earth Guard
Other buffs, there's something missing, but I never pay much attention to other buffs ("all buffs" is good enough for me, especially if I'm noblesse or hero, otherwise, i chose the buffs individually, but base my choise on common sense in connection with the names (you cant do that with dances/songs/chants tho >.>)

As for CoV, I prefer PoWind, unless im certain im going to fight another archer (archers outrange mages in interlude), so Im kiting all the time, and the extra speed is worth the reduction in other stats (IMO).

[Arabule]

Ok, Anjie, lets see, Song of Hunter is so important for Hawkeye as it increases the critical rate, i forget to add it in the post :(

Song of Meditation, you right its for mage.

Dance of Shiren's is also for mage.

But for Blessing & Gift of seraphim i dont agree, they are very important for hawkeye as hawkeye problem is mana consumption is so fast when activating hawkeye skills(Vicious Stance, Accuracy & Focus Skill Mastery) this where Blessing of Seraphimcome come and Gift of seraphim make's your skills recharge faster and thats is so important in hawkeye vs hawkeye pvp.

As for the rest Chant of Fury=Haste, Chant of Eagle=Guidance, Chant of Predator=Focus yes there and you can use the one you can get in the server :)

[Anjie]

I thought Gift of Seraphim reduced magic skills reuse delay, and concerning Blessing, if we are playing a server with no buff limit, I thought it safe to assume we had mana pots (assumptions, I know, but there you go >.>)

[Arabule]

Hum, ok lets see, for the Blessing of Seraphim depends on the server, you can use it or leave it, But Gift of Seraphim Make your Skills recharge faster not only magical skills, all kind of skills Stun Shot, Double Shot, Dash, etc..

And you can test it when you have time, use dash without being buffed with Gift of Seraphim and use it after you get buffed by Gift of Seraphim and you will see a big diffrence.

As for Song of Meditation and Shiren's Dance i removed them from the list.

I also have noticed in the game that The Rage Pa'agiro lower your P.Def more than Breserker Spirits does.

As for adding:

Songs: Vengance, Aqua Guard, Hunter, Warding, Flame Guard
Dances: Aqua and Earth Guard

i have to test them first and will reply with results :)

[Anjie]

I actually experienced the opposite with Rage of Pa'agrio-it reduced pdef/mdef/evasion less than Bezerker Spirit, but this may again be server-specific.

[Arabule]

Yeah Anjie, aren't buffs so complicated and depends on many things, im getting tired of testing lol

Lets just try stick with the basic good buffs and get a conclusion.

[Arabule]

Ok, Sagittures buff list updated again with the most random buffs i could do for a Sagitture Vs Sagitture or Vs Fighters compat.

Angie about adding Aqua Guard, Flame Guard Dances, i picked Elemental Protection, as these 2 dances take place and i dont see any difference in pvping when using them.

Song of Vegeance: im not sure about it, if its really important for Sag's.

Waiting for opinions & suggestions.

[Anjie]

I thought Aqua, Flame guard and Elemental Protection stacked. Might be very situational when they apply (vs sorc or vs sps only(oh, but we are not pvping mages?...that removes a LOT of buffs)). And, if it's a no buff limit server, why not take vengance? Someone is going to hit you in melee sooner or later, why give them an easy ride when they do?

[a1sc0rp]

u use zerc on warriors depending on ur pt, cuz zerc rly lowers ur def and dont go soloing with warrior around with zerc buff... if ur on party then yeh, use zerc... (pvp)

u definetely dont use zerc on daggers (pvp)

[Anjie]

Depends if you wanna hit for up to 10k with you'r dagger (crits ftw). I used to use 'zerk on tanks when I was soloing...

[a1sc0rp]

Depends if you wanna hit for up to 10k with you'r dagger (crits ftw). I used to use 'zerk on tanks when I was soloing...

wao 10k? like s grade vs c grade? lmao wid ++++ on jwls full buffed? lol

i meant soloing on pvp servers :P well i soloed vs groups :P so i aint running around expecting to get hit by 3 nukers wid zerk on, while im tryinh to get to one lol

[Anjie]

10K=AW in IC heavy maxed for crit damadge...and it was against gladis and such. (not tanks-noone else played them :S)

[whatznext]

Do you think i shall stop the archer?
this server is a little bit pvp server and i can not go for pvps with BD

[drajce]

i guess buffs that are good for hawkeyea re also good for SR?
lol its just that i think i dont know how to buff myself ( server with npc buffer) cuz i just got pwned 4 times in rpw by dark elf arch...but i think my SR should pwn him - we had same gear

[a1sc0rp]

ehhh to whatznext well, go get a clan, that will help u gear up, go as a bd and ask for clan on global chat, im possitive theyll take u in, and just ask for gear.... and really it depends on u which class u wanna use, btw.... bd pwnz actually, i whent with a bd and myself th... we pwn 4 and they started running T.T altho i dropped my theca gaiters lol... and he pwned actually, just depends how u play it.. but yh archers crit hard and if u use snipe on sieges.. wao boom >.<

to dracje u have to kno how to pvp as well, and yhr buffs r same... if its against another archer well gl :P if a sr = start rapid fire - (i think rapid shot the other lol) - focus - stun - double shot and keep on

[drajce]

lol :D ok thx man...
now i am going to buff myself and pwn that ghost sentinel ^^
muwahahaha :D

[Arabule]

Please be in topic!

[acteea]

for my HE I use buffs depending on mobs or players i want to kill. i prefer buffing myself first with attack buffs and after that defensive because i believe that attack is the best defence.

because orc buffers are rare and their buffs are not at npc's (if you play on that kind of server) i will stick only to 20 PP & EE buffs, BD dances and SWS songs. i will eliminate also +74 buffs because they are hard to get as well.

so, in general, i use:

1. Wind Walk
2. Song of Wind
3. Berserker Spirit
4. Haste
5. Dance of Fury
6. Might
7. Dance of the Warrior
8. Focus
9. Dance of Fire
10. Song of Hunter
11. Death Whisper
12. Guidance
13. Dance of Inspiration
14. Shield
15. Blessed the Body
16. Blessed the Soul
17. Agility
18. Resist Shock
19. Magic Barrier
20. Blessing of Sagittarius

1-3 help me get more speed because i am the slowest of archers.
3-5 get me attack speed because archers really need it with their slow/ very slow bows
6-7 give more attack power (although i have some, Patk is always welcomed)
8-11 help me with that criticals that make archers so famos
12-13 keeps me not having missed shots (for that archers are also famos)
14 is a common sense power defense (against fighters)
15 helps my MP
16 helps my HP
17 makes me as the name says agile (increase evasion)
18-19 helps against mages and some fighter attacks (bring me stun resistance and Mdef)
20. is a special HE buff that give me the chance of using my skills faster

now, depending on the situation, i can give up to some dances and songs that give me the same thing for more defense like Resist Fire & Song of Flame Guard/ Resist Wind & Song of Storm Guard/ Resist Aqua & Dance of Aqua Guard/ Holy Resistance/ Unholy resistance & Song of Invocation / Resist Poison/ Song of Warding (increase Mdef). this buffs are good against mages so if you are planning to kill one you should reduce Pdef for Mdef, but haste is a must hoping for casting interruption.

as you have seen, i prefer other classes buffs instead of my own. The only ones i use are Blessing of Sagittarius and sometimes Rapid Shot (i try to avoid it because i heard it lowers your range, but never had the patience to test if it is true)
Oh, there is another buff that only HE have: Sniper. This is a triky buff. I use it only if I know for 100% that the target won't get close to me or I am really desperate. that is because Sniper immobilizes you and you will be sure to die with close type fighters. there is an escape: changing your weapon with a non-bow one and after you are free put the bow back. is more difficult than when you have only one weapon but it's worth trying.

speaking about skills, i use as first hit a stun shot and then let the arrows fly freely. if you are desperate and your HP is low you can try double shot or another stun shot. but avoid using too much skills because your criticals come faster with free shots and the skills will delay your shots (and you know that all bows are slow...)

as a tip for criticals that i use is to try coordinating a skill shot with a free shot so that they both end at the same time. is quite hard, but if you succed, the critical is sure thing. another one would be making exactly 2 steps back and then hit again, but i can't tell for sure. is really hard to count steps at pvps and i tried on mobs only. it works, but i'm not yet sure that is for those 2 steps or is for pure luck. if you find out, please tell me.

i am not ashame to use dash and ultimate evasion when things became ugly and that are all the skills i use.

the rest is just hit and run if you deal with close type fighters. if they are mages or archers you have almost the same range so don't lose important hits with running.

the tricky part is with daggers cause if you hit and run you will be normally with the back on them and you know they are specialists at backstab... so use a lot of dash and never sit with the back on them when they are close to you.

and another thing: don't use skills on players that have reflect/ mirrow.

so, if you had the patience of reading all that, i can only say: enjoy your HE (or other archer you have) and let me know if i am wrote something wrong. :)

thanks! bye-bye!

[RedK]

try using vop (instead of cov) dominator buff lvl 78 or 79 best buff there is like cov without the -movement speed factor :)

[Anjie]

try using vop (instead of cov) dominator buff lvl 78 or 79 best buff there is like cov without the -movement speed factor :)

They are exactly the same, VoP is just the ally version, while CoV is partywide.

[RedK]

They are exactly the same, VoP is just the ally version, while CoV is partywide.
well i played on a server a while back it was hellbound the only hellbound server i played in and the vop had the same effect as cov les the movement speed minus.anyway i'll check it and edit my post :P

[Anjie]

well i played on a server a while back it was hellbound the only hellbound server i played in and the vop had the same effect as cov les the movement speed minus.anyway i'll check it and edit my post :P

I'm recalling from official-it might be different on a private server.